In an age of rage, Roger Stone could be the avatar of the times. The self-proclaimed provocateur, Stone is known to wear a t-shirt reading “Trump 2020: F**k Your Feelings.” That credo was on display this week with an attack not on Ron DeSantis but on his wife, Casey. The reason? Casey often refers to her children, a common point of reference for possible first ladies. However, the highlighting of the DeSantis children sent Stone into a signature tirade, including allegedly using a coded word for c**t to refer to Casey. Stone is a diehard supporter of Donald Trump. Nothing says unhinged, recreational rage like attacking a mother for referencing her children.
Mike Crispi posted a statement objecting to the following: “Casey Desantis campaigning: ‘I have a 6, 5 and a 3 year old’ ‘I have a 6, 5 and a 3 year old’ ‘I have a 6, 5 and a 3 year old’ ‘I have a 6, 5 and a 3 year old’ ‘Did you know I have a 6, 5 and a 3 year old?’”
Stone then reportedly responded “SeeUNextTuesday,”using the common slang for the vulgar word (it is meant as a type of acronym beginning C-U). Stone has denied that he used the slur.
Of course, if those words were inserted into the posting by othres, then Stone would be expected to immediately sue for defamation.
Potential first ladies tend to talk about their families and the personal life of a candidate. Casey DeSantis has a compelling story to tell as a cancer surviver who has raised two daughters and a son. These are young children who might call the White House their home. Many people are interested in that personal or family side of candidates.
Slamming the DeSantis couple and family references is coming from both sides. The media has largely maintained unrelenting criticism of DeSantis that has at times extended to his wife, who was described on the Daily Beast dismissively as a “Walmart Melania.” On far-left sites like the DailyKos, she is constantly attacked, including criticizing her wearing of high heels in some pictures. Of course, many of these authors post anonymously so that their rage does not cause any backlash to themselves. At least Stone posts under his own name.
These types of personal attacks have become the norm in our politics, but it will only continue if good people remain silent. Many enjoy the rage. While professing great injury or cause, they like it because it gives them license to say and do things ordinarily avoided by decent people. We enable such rage by remaining silent or shrugging it off as the new normal.
I understand that campaigning spouses like Casey DeSantis must expect public scrutiny and criticism for their political claims and positions. Casey DeSantis has enraged the left over her advocacy of traditional family values and her criticism of certain transgender policies in sports and other areas. Likewise, adult children who engage in criminal acts, influence peddling or corruption are obviously legitimate subjects for public debate.
However, personal attacks for just discussing one’s family should be beyond the pale. The minute we shrug off these attacks as the new normal, it will become the new normal. We should demand more from politicians and pundits alike.
Well, Stone was persecuted through prosecution for 8 years. Had his home violently raided, sent to prison – because he supports Donald Trump. So, a bit less nitpicking from the peanut gallery who’ve endured far less than Roger Stone at the hands of the Regime. Many Trump supporters view DeSantis as a traitor, unworthy of respect, obviously Roger Stone is one of us.
I lean toward DeSantis, and will probably vote for him, unless something dramatically changes. The state of politics is sad to see these days, but has mostly always been the case. What I cannot wrap my head around, however, is that there are people out there that demean traditional family values. It is my personal opinion that the destruction of the family is the root cause of much of society’s problems. Family is everything. Anyway, I admire the DeSantis family and hope they continue to push forward as a strong family unit, to the White House.
Prof. Turley always has interesting and objective points to make. To the Left, that makes him dangerous. So they have assigned many trolls to sabotage discussion. It would be best if comments were signed with real names so that those of us who would like to discuss and read comments about the topic could do so. As it is, I’ll continue to read the Professor’s postings, but not the comments. Sad, but this is what the left has wrought.
I can’t think of two people whose political opinions are less relevant that Stone’s or Turley’s, but at least Stone is operating in his own arena, whereas Turley has migrated over from law into pure politics at the behest of enormous fraud, Rupert Murdoch.
The list of things you can’t think of or know is extensive, not sure why this instance deserved a post.
A liberal demoncrat Mediate attack.
Hey, at least Roger Stone doesn’t cut part of the kids cock off when they are born. I guess he’s way behind in attacking children.
Or all of it, in the latest demontard fad.
Wow, let’s have a fit about Roger Stone under medaite direction when the demoncrats do worse on the daily on near every nation tv news station.
“Hey, at least Roger Stone doesn’t cut part of the kids cock off when they are born. I guess he’s way behind in attacking children.”
Wow! Like Trump’s Jewish daughter and son in law will do with their kids’ cocks when they’re born?
Will they do it with the blessing of Demented Donnie and the Trumptards? How about Roger Stone who has only been able to make a living being a shit disturber? Will anti-Semitic Trumptards approve of that in Demented Donnie’s family? Or take their vote as well as their support all the way to supporting genocidal Hamas terrorists?
Let’s have a Trumptard level fit just like Demented Donnie, The Cryin’ Queen (speaking in Trumptard so the Trumptards can understand) because somebody pointed out you don’t have to act like a cull to promote Trump if he’s your choice?
Even if he’s only your choice because any generic Republican alternative to the Soviet Democrat who appears on the ticket is always a far better choice?
I can vote for Trump even if he’s only my second choice without feeling any obligation to attack anyone who says Roger Stone is a waste of skin and rations who doesn’t make Republicans look better to independent voters and doesn’t make it easier to win elections.
But then; I am neither a Trumptard nor an anti-Semitic hate monger whose other love in life is Hamas and anybody else promising to fulfill The Final Solution for Jews including those in Trump’s family.
Wow girlie you had a fit.
Stone is the uncle in the attic. The only problem is that he doesn’t know it. He’s so wrapped up in himself, for himself, that his support is like a bridge paved with landmines.
Stone was a biog factor in Trump getting elected in 2016.
With friends like that you need more friends, Mr Bates.
What does surviving a bout with breast cancer have to do with anything ?
The victim hardship escape clause just shows how pathetic actual assessment of individuals has become.
Nothing is off the table after more than half of demoncrats made it their life mission to punch a nazi in the face and destroy the 2016 Presidency with any and every lie they could ever tell and hurl any and every insult they could possibly think of.
Desantis’ wife stuck her face out there and babbled on, so any abuse given is fair game, as we have absolutely learned since 2016 with the attacks on Trump, which are still occurring and are never called out enough, so Roger Stone who was illegally attacked by the government demoncrat crime syndicate CAN STEP IT UP 20 NOTCHES AND HE HAS MY FULL SUPPORT, which will still fall short of all the general demoncrat mouths and public attitudes.
Herr Anonymous has shrieked.
And, correctly assessed the landscape, as the ad hominem fully indicates.
It isn’t too uncommon for posts to be unrelated to the topic. Scrolling through today’s topic it appears nearly every post is unrelated.
“Toto, I’ve a feeling we’re not in [Methico] anymore.”
– Dorothy, Wizard of Oz, 1939
Stone has lost the plot.
And helped win the election again, for Trump, as you grind your teeth and wail at the sky tearing the rainbows from your inadequate frame.
or maybe you have…
To be sure, the communists (liberals, progressives, socialists, democrats, RINOs, AINOs) committed a ridiculous, wholly unnecessary, and boorish predawn raid on Roger Stone’s house with his wife inside with absolutely no compelling rationale; their motive was petty political retribution and vengeance.
“RFK Jr. OBLITERATES Competition in New Polling”
CAN YOU SAY, SICKO, IT RUNS IN THE BLOOD?
Let’s review. Joe Kennedy was a criminal, mobster, and bootlegger who parlayed his dirty money into successful unethical equities trading while everyone else was suffering during the Great Depression before joining with the mob to buy the U.S. presidency in 1960. John Kennedy was a completely egomaniacal international playboy and buffoon who nearly plunged America and the world into nuclear war before being suckered and giving Kruschev everything he had been angling for. Bobby was terminally egomaniacal, becoming an enemy of and taking on the mob. John Junior was another fool who miscalculated, being infected with the familial form of egomania, get-there-itis, believing that he, a mortal, could prevail over God, nature, and weather simply because he was a Kennedy, taking two innocent women to their watery graves with him.
And then there is the dirty little family secret the very successfully kept deeply hidden:
“JFK, Monster”
By Timothy Noah
“I knew that John F. Kennedy was a compulsive, even pathological adulterer, given to taking outlandish risks after he entered the White House. I knew he treated women like whores. And I knew he had more than a few issues with his father about toughness and manliness and all that. But before I read in the newspaper that Mimi Alford’s just-released memoir, Once Upon A Secret: My Affair With President John F. Kennedy And Its Aftermath, described giving Dave Powers a blow job at JFK’s request and in his presence, I didn’t know that Kennedy had an appetite for subjecting those close to him to extreme humiliation.”
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Come on in, you damn fool Kennedy.
The water’s fine.
I’ll buy Fox and not let Turley appear anymore.
another demoncrat fascist corporate pig censor, big surprise, it’s also delusional and deadly serial
Roger Stone does not represent Real President Donald J. Trump, the Trump Family, or the Trump Campaign with this remark.
Roger Stone is unacceptably rude and boorish with this remark.
George , you actually talk like a normal human being . Everything else I have seen looks like it was written by fascist troglodytes from under a rock.
Voters – us – are to blame for this petty immaturity. Remember our children are watching us and need adult role models.
For example: remember when Vietnam POW, John McCain, corrected a Republican voter repeating defamatory remarks about Barack Obama? McCain corrected the voter, basically saying Obama was a good man and that he (McCain) just happened to disagree with him on political policy.
Republican voters then figuratively threw this former war hero under the bus. McCain was basically thrown out of the Republican Party.
Both parties have done it. Your children witnessed this petty immaturity – look in the mirror and start there!
Obama is an essential liar, fraud, and flagrant criminal against fundamental law.
Obama knows well that he will never be eligible for the office of U.S. president.
Obama knows well he will never be a “natural born citizen” with two parents who were citizens and a father who was a citizen at the time of the candidate’s birth, according to the legal text and reference of the era, the Law of Nations, which Ben Franklin wrote “…has been continually in the hands of the members of our Congress, now sitting,…,” which was the case with every president before Obama.
The singular American failure has been and continues to be the partial and corrupt Supreme Court.
George, You may be interested in this article that summarizes the numerous unsuccessful challenges to Obama’s eligibility in 2008 and 2012. He is not eligible for a third presidential term based on the 22nd Amendment.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barack_Obama_presidential_eligibility_litigation
SISSY THE TRUTH DENIER
IT CAN’T REFUTE SO IT “FUNDAMENTALLY TRANSFORMS” THE FACTS AND THE TRUTH
And the partial, corrupt, and communist (liberal, progressive, socialist, democrat, RINO, AINO) Supreme Court of 1973 lied, defrauded, and purported that abortion was a federal and constitutional right for nearly 50 years.
And the partial, corrupt, fellow traveler of Karl Marx and Abraham Lincoln in the Supreme Court of 1869 “decided” that because secession was not prohibited by the Constitution, secession was unconstitutional.
Wait! What???
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“That dudn’t make any sense.”
– George W. Bush
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And the Supreme Court, since “Crazy Abe” Lincoln, has allowed the incremental implementation of the principles of communism in the once-free United States of America. Look around you at the central planning, control of the means of production (unconstitutional regulation), redistribution of wealth, and social engineering, under Karl Marx and Abraham Lincoln’s motto: “From each according to his abilities, to each according to his needs.”
Why do you persist in subverting the actual, applicable, fundamental law, the Constitution, which requires a “natural born citizen” as president, per the Law of Nations, which Ben Franklin tells you and everyone to this day in his letter of December 9, 1775, assuring that the Law of Nations “…has been continually in the hands of the members of our Congress, now sitting,…,” and the irrefutable fact and past practice of every president before Obama of having two parents who were citizens, and a father who was a citizen, at the time of the candidate’s birth?
You just hate those pesky facts and no one ever stops you from falsely denying the truth without relevant evidence or otherwise basis, right?
You go, boy!
It’s amazing. I knew this country was totally gone when when the illegal usurper was installed while the Constitution was ignored.
We had a real America hater in office, proving the Founders had proper judgement.
Worse yet they diverted the truth to where the liar was born and what the birth cert or not said – admitting the failure to be natural born all along.
Then the revisionists spewed an illegal alien baby drop qualifies for potus, as it must be shown everyone is eligible. They are working on absolute foreigners beyond half foreigners, give them a few more decades.
You may be interested in reading the following Congressional Research Service article on the presidential eligibility issue that comes to a different conclusion — see
https://www.everycrsreport.com/files/20160111_R42097_
bd9c656ad2788b212d1bf045b013728f8ed309ba.pdf
LMAO – I saw hundreds of lies during the entire escapade, no need for more repeating BS from lying sacks of crap.
Tell me, who was the US Potus whose Father was accused of being a Canadian citizen at the inopportune time, and the home and papers burned to the ground destroying the evidence against him ? YOU MAY BE INTERESTED ENOUGH TO TELL ME.
please educate me mr know nothing
“the irrefutable fact and past practice of every president before Obama of having two parents who were citizens, and a father who was a citizen, at the time of the candidate’s birth?”
Irrefutable?
Except George Washington as one example. John Adams. Thomas Jefferson… mom a British Subject. Or William Harris… born a British subject. Andrew Jackson, born to TWO foreign parents, both born in Ireland. I’m not sure whether Woodrow Wilson’s immigrant wife had become a naturalized citizen before his birth; George can check up on that.
It’s a little disturbing that those playing variations of the “he’s not eligible game” would eagerly throw the children of American war veterans of the last 30 years, who had children with foreign nationals while posted abroad to serve their country into their “not eligible” box. Particularly in the time since 9/11 when some soldiers at home and abroad have ‘partnerships’ with their wives or husbands rather than a formalized marriage.
I know a former Delta Force guy who would love to hear anybody want to tell him his kid borne to him and his Australian live in girlfriend and now wife between tours and before they were ever married isn’t good enough to be qualified to be George’s president..
George demands that, for HIS version of America, every single child of every single American war veteran who has children with a foreign national prior to that foreign national ever becoming an American citizen are prohibited from ever running for the presidency. Sucks to be them…
Other versions of George’s America hold that if those American troops are stationed with their families in foreign countries like Italy or Germany and their children are born on that foreign soil… those veterans’ children are ALSO prohibited from running for the presidency. Again, sucks to be them…
I gather George carefully checked to ensure Trump’s mother had became a naturalized American before he was borne?
Aside from that, I don’t place much credulity in what Wikipedia decides can and can’t be posted in their pages about people and/or subjects.
“For example: remember when Vietnam POW, John McCain, corrected a Republican voter repeating defamatory remarks about Barack Obama?”
There’s some pretty carefully chosen selective memories of McCain on display there. Accompanied by fraudulent excuses for him being rejected LONG before that moment defending Obama.
Yeah, I also remember when the very same John McCain heaped abuse and defamatory remarks on Tea Party activists – including the one veteran in a wheel chair, minus his legs. That was LONG before Trump, BTW.
Is it sort of like the Soviet Democrats: it’s okay if McCain heaps insults on disabled veterans, but not if it’s Trump responding with his idiot comments after McCain throws insults at Trump? Or McCain gets a pass because he once kissed Obama’s butt magnanimously and the Democrats loved that?
Well, do your remember McCain happily helping Clinton/Obama/Biden/the DNC inject their “Russia Dossier” into the Obama DoJ and that election campaign?
When does “defamatory” become a deliberate, flat out lie calculated to destroy a person’s entire life, not just their political career?
How about when you sit on the sidelines silent for years after that, knowing that “Dossier” was nothing but a 100% fraud, watching beside Obama and Biden as Americans tore each other apart because you had helped half of them believe your “Russia Dossier” was real and Putin’s stooge is now the president of their country?
Now THAT’S how real patriots and war heroes show their love of their country and their countrymen – help police state fascism work! Not. That’s a spiteful coward who would be hanging his head in shame if he were a real man after doing that.
How about this: do you remember McCain being remembered as one of the nastiest people in the halls of the Senate prior to becoming the Soviet Democrats’ hero anti-Trump?
How about remembering McCain’s bitterness and spitefulness towards both Bushs, president and son, both military veterans, during the 2000 Republican South Carolina primary?
You don’t remember the enmity and spiteful drive to get back at both Bushs and the GOP after he lost that battle to Bush long before Trump came along to make him a political hero again?
McCain got his ass rejected by the GOP long before he decided to take a round out of the winning primary candidate for the 2016 election, Donald Trump and long before he kissed Obama’s behind while Obama was slipping the bone up his at the same time. That wasn’t Trump’s fault and it wasn’t Bushes nor Obama’s – it was McCain’s; he owns that, he wasn’t a Democrat style ‘victim’.
His rage and spitefulness at Trump only increased when Trump accomplished what McCain failed to do by winning the presidency. He not only attacked Trump, but also attacked Republicans who chose Trump as being crazies – whether they were disabled war veterans or not.
Then he went further with saying he served in a war while rich kids of his age went and found a doctor that would say they had bone spurs. How’s that for defamatory and nasty instead of magnanimity like he showed in defending Obama?
You remember any of that Senator McCain who defended Obama from derogatory remarks? I do. And so do a lot of others.
Aside from everything else, from a political standpoint, it was stupid for Trump to feed the Democrats, Never Trumpers, and Democrat media propagandists that comment about McCain. McCain himself probably gloated when he heard it, thinking of how popular it would make him once again, while grist for the mill in his efforts to destroy Trump.
Trump could have taken a far better shot by responding that McCain was only useful to the Democrats when voting with them and when insulting disabled Tea Party veterans and attacking George Bush. Or better yet, ignored McCain as irrelevant since he got his ass kicked out of Republican acceptance long before Trump arrived. Trump has a real talent for politically stepping on his dick that he apparently enjoys indulging in. I believe it’s deliberate because he wouldn’t have gotten far in business acting the same way.
That isn’t the point. McCain wasn’t a victim as you attempt to portray him as. He wasn’t robbed of his safe space. He had proven himself to be a Grade A monkey’s rectum towards other Republican politicians and voters long before Trump arrived. The end was when he went after the Bushies and discovered he was too light in his combat boots to take on THOSE military veterans, father and son. And Republicans rejected him for that – they did so before he was kissing Obama’s butt while Obama was giving it to McCain up the same place. That’s the point
After 40 years in uniform, my position is you don’t get to ride your moments of bravery and risk taking for the remaining 60 years of your life, just because you once wore a uniform. Using as your defense “war hero, 40 years ago”.
Whether the remainder of your life is spent in politics or not. In politics, as in the military, it’s what you’re doing for the good of your country today – not what you did at one time decades ago in your past.
If you’re going to make sure your children are watching what you do and the stories you tell them – make sure you tell them ALL the story, including ALL the story about McCain and everybody else, including Obama and that election. Don’t do a half baked, cherry picked version of telling them about people. Including John McCain, and instead try to paint him as a magnanimous, polite, fair minded and acting politician.
We do more to degrade children by teaching them to ‘reason’ with shallow, sophomoric rhetoric based on cherry picked selective facts stripped of nuance and context in order to build some up while tearing others down. Far more than we do with stupid remarks.